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Re: Stop hitting Alegre! (2.00 / 2)

Conventions are for the party to make their case to the American people that they should be elevated into majority status.  That's why disorder and chaos are no longer acceptable at conventions.

Would you have liked it if Barack Obama, trailing by 150 delegates, took his case to the convention, and asked the party platform to include something like, "We firmly believe that the Iraq War should never have been waged, and we admonish all elected officials who voted for its authorization in 2002?"

Quit being a sore loser.  Barack Obama has spent his entire political career fighting for the core idea that brought Hillary Clinton into politics in the first place -- the idea that we are interdependent of one another, and government should embody the idea of family -- while John McCain has spent his entire political career opposing this grand idea at the top of his lungs.  This is what should be shown at the convention -- not poor Hillary, who likes to advocate winner-take-all, now wanting something when she lost.


by Brad G on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:45:33 PM EST
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Your rantings don't make much sense.


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by lori on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:50:59 PM EST
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I'll condense it for you... (none / 0)

...if the tables were turned and Obama was the one behind, would you stll be arguing that Obama has every right to "take it to the convention?"

Somehow I doubt it.


by DawnG on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:49:17 PM EST
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Re: Stop hitting Alegre! (2.00 / 4)

I wouldn't use the phrase "His entire political career", to try to prove a point.  It was so short, and not that impressive.


by Scotch on Sat May 17, 2008 at 06:31:16 PM EST
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Re: Stop hitting Alegre! (2.00 / 1)

Neither was that ex-one-term representative named Abraham Lincoln particularly distinguished in 1860.  Particularly when compared to his predecessor, James Buchanan, who had 10 years of experience as a House member, 10 years as a U.S. Senator, was a minister to Russia and a minister to Britian, and was Secretary of State for four years before becoming President.  Now which person made a better President?


by Brad G on Sat May 17, 2008 at 07:00:09 PM EST
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Well then, we shouldn't even consider experience in voting for president.  What were we thinking?  I vote for Joe Schmoe the next time around, he works in a factory, and has never voted,even.  But he seems like the best pick to me because he has no experience which is even better than we could ever dream of in a president.


by Scotch on Sat May 17, 2008 at 07:18:21 PM EST
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Also, voting to authorize one of the nation's greatest foreign policy failures, and refusing to own up to that vote is so distinguished?


by Brad G on Sat May 17, 2008 at 07:03:20 PM EST
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Re: Stop hitting Alegre! (none / 0)

The Convention "floor fight" is a mythological sort of deal for Democrats. There have been some special Conventions, where no candidate arrives with any sort of even a close majority and it takes several votes to figure out who it will be.

1968 was the anti-Vietnam War protest elevated to an art form and McCarthy first getting 42% to Johnsons' 49% in New Hampshire primary. Johnson announced he was going to not run for a second term.  Robert Kennedy got into the race, Hubert Humphrey the VP got into the race, and when RFK got shot the night of the California primary (winning it), it threw the Convention into turmoil. MLK had been shot on April 4th. One hundred cities rioted and looted.  Another war supporter, Humphrey managed to get the insiders to pass by a discouraged RFK contingent and a Eugene McCarthy in Chicago to get the nomination.

 The police were sent around the delegates hotels to keep order.  Senator Abraham Ribicoff in giving a speech placing McCarthy's name in nomination scolded and told of Daley for his tactics. The NY and California delegations, after Humphrey succeeded in getting the nomination,
lit candles and swayed singing protest songs right on the floor of the Convention. Dump the Hump!  

It was a unpopular choice.  Nixon won by a small margin.  HHH was linked too closely to Johnson , and no enthusiasm for him was seen in most areas.  TV coverage of the controversies to people who didn't get what was going on proved a bigger help to the Republicans.  Their convention was very orderly.

Convention excitement is overrated. Unfortunately a troubling picture will create negatives among low-info voters.


by PeteRock on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:37:25 AM EST
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The Convention "floor fight" is a mythological sort of deal for Democrats. There have been some special Conventions, where no candidate arrives with any sort of even a close majority and it takes several votes to figure out who it will be.

1968 was the anti-Vietnam War protest elevated to an art form and McCarthy first getting 42% to Johnsons' 49% in New Hampshire primary. Johnson announced he was going to not run for a second term.  Robert Kennedy got into the race, Hubert Humphrey the VP got into the race, and when RFK got shot the night of the California primary (winning it), it threw the Convention into turmoil. MLK had been shot on April 4th. One hundred cities rioted and looted.  Another war supporter, Humphrey managed to get the insiders to pass by a discouraged RFK contingent and a Eugene McCarthy in Chicago to get the nomination.

 The police were sent around the delegates hotels to keep order.  Senator Abraham Ribicoff in giving a speech placing McCarthy's name in nomination scolded and told of Daley for his tactics. The NY and California delegations, after Humphrey succeeded in getting the nomination,
lit candles and swayed singing protest songs right on the floor of the Convention. Dump the Hump!  

It was a unpopular choice.  Nixon won by a small margin.  HHH was linked too closely to Johnson , and no enthusiasm for him was seen in most areas.  TV coverage of the controversies to people who didn't get what was going on proved a bigger help to the Republicans.  Their convention was very orderly.

Convention excitement is overrated. Unfortunately a troubling picture will create negatives among low-info voters.


by PeteRock on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:38:58 AM EST
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