Eight Belles and the death penalty.

I love animals.  I have 2 rescue Australian Cattle Dogs, and 4 cats who were strays.  I've done animal rescue work and I am involved with the local no-kill shelter.

I've also always been a passionate opponent of the death penalty.  To me it is something that defines the US as not having made it to the ranks of civilized nations.  It is wrong in so many ways I can't begin here to enumerate them.  Our party was hijacked some years back by pro DP ideology, and except for John Kerry, every single candidate in recent years has run on a platform endorsing it.

This was on MSNBC today.  It is a statement by Justice Stevens, a vehement DP opponent of the DP, about the difference in the euthanasia of Eight Belles at the Derby and what happens to a condemned prisoner.  

"CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. - Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens said the euthanized Kentucky Derby horse Eight Belles probably died more humanely than death row prisoners do.

Stevens's comments Friday night came a month after he voted with a majority of the Supreme Court to approve the most widely used method of lethal injection, while saying for the first time that he now believes the death penalty is unconstitutional.

According to the Chattanooga Times Free Press, Stevens told an audience of judges and lawyers that he checked into the procedure used to kill Eight Belles and was surprised to learn it is against the law in Kentucky to kill animals using one of the drugs in a three-drug lethal injection cocktail that many states, including Kentucky, use to execute prisoners."

Stevens, by the way, was a GOP appointee and is the only Justice who now believes the DP is unconstitutional.

I would really like to see our party move back to the correct and moral stand on this issue.  It is one of the few that I would actually switch parties on if there was a Republican running on an anti-death-penalty platform, as George Ryan ran on in Illinois.

Here is the link to the entire short article:  

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24556887/

Obviously it is not enough to just stop the use of this cocktail, there is something wrong with our need to keep using this punishment; but then hey, we seem to like torture a lot these days too.



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I worked with death row inmates for many years and was an activist in this area. The state I worked in had one of the highest execution rates and used the electric chair.  It is torture, no way around that.  Not to mention that the death penalty fails as a deterrent; costs more than incarceration; is implemented in a racist and classist manner; and carries a risk of error which, of course, cannot be reversed once the punishment is enacted.

I'd love to see the Democrats take up a position opposing capital punishment.  Now that DNA technology has highlighted the risk of error and certain methods are getting more attention for their cruelty, perhaps we are not too far away from a turning point in the Democratic Party on this crucial human rights problem. Continuing to use the death penalty damages our credibility with other countries when promoting human rights.

Thank you for raising this issue.  I have recommended your diary.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Sat May 10, 2008 at 08:30:19 PM EST

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Agree 110%.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:27:48 PM EST
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Thank you very very much for your recommendation. It would be a good thing if we measured our value as a nation at least in part by how we treated the most despised of our population.  We fail so miserably in that; particularly in our use of the DP, but also with other criminal justice issues, and I think it spills over into the whole discussion of torture which too many Americans are sort of just numbed about.


by mady on Sat May 10, 2008 at 08:37:13 PM EST

Ryan didn't run against death penalty. (none / 0)

Changed his mind while in office.




The 4th Amendment: It's not just for dope dealers anymore.
by benmasel on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:03:57 PM EST

Re: Ryan didn't run against death penalty. (none / 0)

But he did change his mind.


by mady on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:08:59 PM EST
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Bill Clinton's "60 New Death Penalties" (none / 0)

included not just crimes of violence, but also such trivial offenses as growing a field of hemp.




The 4th Amendment: It's not just for dope dealers anymore.
by benmasel on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:05:27 PM EST

DP (none / 0)

Clinton had a horrible record on the DP, but Obama's is not much better.  This is one area where neither candidate has shown much courage.  This is not a partisan issue, though, there are good people of all political affiliations who want to see this gone, and Souter, a Bush appointee (Bush 1) was one of, I think 2 votes, against lethal injection a few weeks ago.  


by mady on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:12:07 PM EST
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Democratic Platform? (none / 0)

Bill insisted that explicit support for Capital punishment be included in the 1996 Platform, not removed until 2004. Would Hillary, if nominated, follow suit?




The 4th Amendment: It's not just for dope dealers anymore.
by benmasel on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:54:47 PM EST
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Re: Democratic Platform? (none / 0)

I support Obama in spite of, not because of, his stand on the DP.  Neither candidate has a good position on it.  


by mady on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:02:48 PM EST
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Great diary. Recommended. (none / 0)

I've always been against the death penalty, and it's disappointing that more of our politicians don't stand up and fight it. It's a political liability, of course.


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by sricki on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:24:13 PM EST

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I am personally for the death penalty. I believe the victim's family has the right to ask for the death penalty.

However, it is not a voting issue for me. I am perfectly fine voting for anyone who is opposed to DP because I don't feel very strongly about my opinion as mistakes can happen.

But my personal moral code has no problem killing a monster. A politician who is pro Death Penalty but is slower to go to war is responsible for less deaths than a politician who is anti Death Penalty but will go to war a little more easily and be responsible for a lot of collateral damage.


by Pravin on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:12:25 PM EST

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I don't want my government killing people who are already totally under their control.  It is not self defense. It protects no one and it makes all of us murderers.  The death penalty ceremony itself is just so sick.  If you believe that torture is wrong than the DP is wrong as well.  


by mady on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:29:56 PM EST
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A lot of wars sanctioned by politicians are not self defense. I see a lot more politicians opposed to death penalty. BUt that doesn't reallhy bother me. However, I would like to see more politicians more willing to oppose optional wars. If someone poses me the same question posed to Dukakis, my answer would be to fry the bastard.


by Pravin on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:59:32 PM EST
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There is no good reason for the death penalty.

If we spent as much time attacking the roots of violent crime, rather than worrying about killing them once the act has been done, we'd be much better off as a society.


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by freedom78 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:07:32 AM EST

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I don't deny, either, that evil exists, but why do we need to become them in how we punish. If you heard of a serial killer who was paralyzing his victims so they could not scream and then causing them an agonizing death, after putting them in a small cell for a long time with the constant fear of death, what would you say about that person?  In examining the death penalty, that person is us.


by mady on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:30:02 AM EST


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